072114EnzoEddy2

 -- calligraphicGuitarist [CG] began pestering anaximandersTrepidation [AT] at 23:28 --

 [11:28] CG: Hello Enzo?

 [11:28] AT: ∴ Oh, Good evening Eddy. ∴

 [11:28] CG: Came to inform you the band update.

 [11:28] AT: ∴ What do you have to report? ∴

 [11:29] CG: I mentioned about you bringing Thiago into the band, more like saying Thiago snuck in.

 [11:29] CG: Tethys had to pull out of the band because of Thiago just being here.

 [11:29] CG: I wasn't myself at the time and left her on a sour note.

 [11:29] AT: ∴ Truly? That's a shame; ∴

 [11:30] AT: ∴ I'm not surprised she has the sense to not want to complicate her life; ∴

 [11:30] AT: ∴ I suppose I don't understand troll relationships, perhaps they don't enjoy their blackroms, or it is unrequited. ∴

 [11:31] CG: I agree. I feel Thiago only joined because Tethys was in our band. Same goes for our Laser harp. He's debating on staying or going though.

 [11:31] AT: ∴ Truly regrettable; however, I do have sound samples from both Tethys and the Harpist. ∴

 [11:31] AT: ∴ I can easily make one song with what I do have of theirs; ∴

 [11:32] AT: ∴ We will have to find more band members, but I'm not apposed to having revolving door members. ∴

 [11:33] AT: ∴ So, without Tethys, who does that leave us with? ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [11:34] CG: Jack the harmonica, Eric the classic piano, yourself with music and lyrics, and me with guitar.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [11:34] CG: I imagine it won't be hard for you to pick up drumming correct?

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [11:34] AT: ∴ Oh? did Thiago leave as well? ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [11:35] CG: ...Oh right...and Thiago on synthesis.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [11:35] CG: sorry. Still have weariness about him.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [11:36] AT: ∴ I suppose I can understand why; however we can't discount Tethys's attitude. ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [11:36] AT: ∴ She did seem fairly apathetic about the whole thing; and I don't see how percussion could be terribly hard. ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [11:37] CG: It's all about following a rhythm. I can give you some drum samples online.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [11:38] AT: ∴ Well, I have rhythm, I know that; ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [11:39] AT: ∴ And I have an overturned bucket I could hit with a stick. ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [11:39] CG: If you wanna really be a drummer you gotta get the right gear.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [11:40] AT: ∴ My dear Eddy, you think too conventionally. ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [11:41] CG: Heh. Well if you think you can handle it with what you got then it will be quite the feat.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [11:42] AT: ∴ A drum is only as good as the player, not to mention the sounds that can be produced from an array of large containers is endless; ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [11:42] AT: ∴ Provided I can continue my supply of containers. ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [11:42] CG: Trash rock?

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [11:43] AT: ∴ Well, not presented as such, but unless I can find drums, I will have to do with what I have. ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [11:43] CG: hmm...

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [11:44] CG: ...I looked up something really...really odd.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [11:44] CG: But could be what you're trying to go for with improv.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [11:44] CG: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfwzlE3WEkw

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [11:44] AT: ∴ Oh? What's this? ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [11:44] CG: I'm not a disney fan myself...but i think it's 'trashin the cam'...

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [11:45] CG: camp*

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [11:45] AT: ∴ Oh, I think I do remember this; ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [11:45] AT: ∴ I ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [11:45] CG: ...You do?

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [11:46] AT: ∴ I'm not certain I want to be as transparrent as they are being; ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [11:46] CG: But I imagine this is what I ended up imagining. What variation would you be taking with it?

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [11:47] AT: ∴ Well, firstly, not certainly not clearly breaking plates, nor would my music be this robust or lively. ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [11:47] AT: ∴ I'm more in for swelling scores that eventually build to magnificent breakdowns. ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [11:48] CG: Huh.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [11:48] CG: Well if that's what you want our band to do okay.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [11:49] AT: ∴ To a degree yes, but with fewer percussion per song; ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [11:49] AT: ∴ I would not use all the improvised procussion all at once. ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [11:50] CG: You sure this is a rock song?

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [11:51] AT: ∴ What you just had me listen to? certainly not rock. ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [11:51] AT: ∴ Here I will give you a sample of what I mean: ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [11:52] AT: ∴ http://youtu.be/2kfkUUkEGtc?t=8m39s ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [11:53] AT: ((if it doesn't start there automatically, go to 8:39, you don't have to listen to all 17min))

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [11:56] AT: ∴ think of that, but the harshness of pants and deep hollow drum barrels; ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [11:56] AT: ∴ Also spacier. ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [11:56] AT: ∴ *pans, not pants ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [11:57] CG: ...Wow...

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [11:57] CG: sounds...really emotional.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [11:58] AT: ∴ Indeed; that is what I want to make, music that not only elicits deep emotion; ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [11:58] AT: ∴ but also laced with lyrics about the meaning of the universe and the concepts of reality. ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [11:58] CG: ...and make people really feel like the music is narrating it to your spirit...

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [11:59] AT: ∴ I like that imagry; ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:00] CG: ...We gotta get eric a piano...

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:00] AT: ∴ assuming the spirit is a real thing that can be shared through music. ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:00] CG: It's the metaphorical concept Enzo.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:00] AT: ∴ I know, Sometimes I can't help refute. ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:01] CG: Basically saying 'music reaches out to your heart so deeply and into your mind so detailingly it makes you feel like you want to know more'.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:01] CG: Well I can understand.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:01] CG: But then the old saying 'just because you don't see air doesn't mean it doesn't exist'.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:01] CG: How can you rebuttle that?

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:01] CG: rebuttal*

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:02] AT: ∴ Air is proven to exist because it has the power to effect more than preception; ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:02] AT: ∴ A tree being pulled out of the ground due to incredible force is a clear indecator of air's existance; ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:03] AT: ∴ Also "air" is a concept of chemicles in a gascious form. ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:03] AT: ∴ But I do know where you're coming from; somethings are simply mysterious. ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:03] CG: Exactly. I mean, I just met this girl by mistake who talks about magic existing. Whether it be metaphorical or for real with her, she at least uses belief to make it feel real.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:04] CG: A means of connecting between people and making them feel an emotion evoked from sincerity and energetic compassion.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:04] AT: ∴ Feh; I would be driven crazy by a constant stream of nonsense magic worship; ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:04] CG: What i wouldn't give to fight a real cerberus though instead of pretend.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:04] AT: ∴ It's why I would not be able to fully respect someone deeply religious. ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:05] CG: I'll remember not mentioning her or the sister of the girl i'm falling for.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:05] CG: the sister, she's religious.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:05] AT: ∴ Oh? is this the sister I spoke to the other day? ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:05] CG: Yes. It'd be nice if you didn't try to debate her into thinking you're bad company.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:06] AT: ∴ Hmmm, well I will not endevour to try and debunk her religion; ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:06] AT: ∴ I am not one for insulting other people's beliefs, only showing when they are clearly wrong. ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:06] CG: you can't imagine the number of facepalms i'm doing hearing that can you?

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:08] AT: ∴ I suppose that statement was a bit flawed. ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:08] CG: Very.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:08] CG: I know you're genius enough to catch your own words at least.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:08] CG: The best i can do is help with sound advice.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:08] AT: ∴ Well, I try to be as smart as I can be; even Plato needed Socrates to question him. ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:09] CG: I'm happy to be your socrates.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:10] AT: ∴ Ah ha, well, we can debate who is who another time. ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:10] AT: ∴ Though for now, I appreciate the sentiment. ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:11] CG: You're welcome.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:11] CG: Though it means I have to practice how to tone my musical pacing down to match the same melody you're looking for.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:12] AT: ∴ Well the melodies will vary, and I will work on setting a beat for you and the rest of the band so you can match your speed as it varries. ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:12] CG: It'll be quite the challenge for me.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:16] AT: ∴ I believe in your talents and your faith in our project; ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:16] AT: ∴ I'm sure we will be able to make music out of whatever you produce. ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:16] CG: ...Thanks. I need all the belief I can get on my side.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:19] AT: ∴ Well I do have a recording of quite a few harp noises, a drum beat and female vocals ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:19] AT: ∴ Not to mention the guitar riff you sent me. ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:19] CG: Heh. I can give you a sample of my most beloved genre.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:20] AT: ∴ That would be great; I'll do what I can with them. ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:20] CG: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSylbQEHhVo

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:20] CG: Founders of Kamelot, my confession.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:20] CG: the song title that is. Not a real confession.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:21] AT: ∴ ah ha, I see ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:22] CG: Something I really feel speaks out to me.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:23] AT: ∴ I like it, The power guitar is certainly something we can use as well as the violins; ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:23] AT: ∴ The drummer is lazy though. ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:23] CG: good lazy or bad lazy?

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:24] AT: ∴ In this case? Bad lazy. ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:24] CG: I guess.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:24] CG: I was always one for the lyrics and the power guitar.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:25] AT: ∴ Indeed: those are the best parts of the band; and to be fair, the drums work with the rest of the band. ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:26] CG: to me... Base is the tempo, the setting of a bands motions. Drums bring rhythm, bringing the music high or low in motion of the song. Guitar is melody, bringing forth different pitch and pacing with the rest... and I think the voice and other ensamble are harmony, that which brings forth synergy to the rest of the music.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:28] AT: ∴ Largely, I agree with that; ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:29] AT: ∴ If you want an example of a band that is not only like what you shared with me, but in sync with what they're playing, I can share: ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:29] CG: Do share. I'd like to listen.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:30] AT: ∴ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_d7ReeVkGo ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:30] AT: ∴ excuse it, it is a bit bombastic, but I do enjoy them a lot. ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:31] CG: aah...the foundations of their rock...

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:31] CG: > > !!

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:31] CG: Wait a minute.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:31] CG: You listen to rhapsody too?

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:32] AT: ∴ Indeed; I have dabbled in them, particularly listening to the metal technique. ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:33] CG: Hah. And here I thought you were only about slow to build up. I should've been wiser and asked if you had other song interests too.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:33] AT: ∴ Well, The slow build up is there, particularly in this song, and they have other songs that build slower than this one; ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:34] CG: Well if it's rhapsody pace then I can grasp that easy.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:34] AT: ∴ Sometimes a high innitial attack can be useful, particularly depending on the genre and the subject matter; ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:35] CG: It's like you're reading my mind here.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:35] AT: ∴ I wouldn't ask you to go at crazy chaos mathmetal levels, ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:35] CG: Doubt I can handle that.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:35] AT: ∴ Indeed; if anything that would be something to build to. ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:40] CG: Well it's nice knowing the range of understanding you got too.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:40] CG: Just like I said, take it easy with the sister okay?

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:40] AT: ∴ I will be civil if contacted; ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:41] AT: ∴ I doubt she would have the ability to debates me, perhaps she can put some sort of curse one me. ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:42] CG: now let's not joke about that or risk it being true.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:42] AT: ∴ HAH! ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:42] AT: ∴ Forgive me, you know my adversion to magic and the thought of it existing is both hilarious ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:42] AT: ∴ and infuriating to me. ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:43] CG: Well it made you laugh at least.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:43] AT: ∴ it did, and the laugh was met by the unbridled rage, they had a discussion and left me feeling neautral. ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:44] CG: Oh well.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:46] CG: Oh right, before we finish up, I got a finished work of that project you sent me.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[12:46] -- calligraphicGuitarist [CG] -- file sent --

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:46] AT: ∴ Oh? what's this now? ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:47] CG: You sent me some work last chat...thought I'd give a slight flair to it.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:49] AT: ∴ Oh yes! Now I recognize it! ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:49] AT: ∴ I am quite impressed, I like what you produced here. ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:50] CG: Thanks. It's nothing much.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:51] AT: ∴ It will pair well with the other clips I have; With this we may have a song pretty soon. ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:51] CG: Glad to hear it.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:51] CG: I gotta finish a few things up here before long. Hope to chat again.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [12:53] AT: ∴ Until we speak again. ∴

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> -- calligraphicGuitarist [CG] ceased pestering anaximandersTrepidation [AT] at 00:53 --