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[08:53] -- arcaneArtisan [AA] began pestering galactoidArrival [GA] at 20:53 --

[08:53] AA: Hi Doir!

[08:54] GA: hi

[08:54] AA: I need to ask you for a favor and then ask you a question. Would you mind?

[08:55] GA: not at all, ask away

[08:55] AA: Okay, the favor is just--would you please send me the code for your glasses?

[08:55] AA: I'm going to try some alchemy stuff to see if I can make myself a pair.

[08:55] GA: sure

[08:55] -- galactoidArrival [GA] sends the code. --

[08:55] AA: Thanks.

[08:55] AA: Okay, the question is a bit more complicated.

[08:57] AA: I've been talking to Null about this whole "Moirail" thing, and we both think Balish REALLY needs one. And I was thinking about offering.

[08:57] GA: okay

[08:57] AA: But she says you're someone's Moirail, and I thought maybe since you're human like me, you might get some of the stuff the trolls do naturally and wouldn't think to talk about.

[08:58] GA: well, it would definitely be best to get advice from as many trolls as possible, as well as me, but i can try

[08:58] GA: basically, you help your moirail deal with their feelings, and their problems too

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[08:58] AA: Yeah. That part makes sense. That just sounds like being a good friend.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[08:58] GA: it often involves papping, or shooshing, and calming them down, and also sitting on piles

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[08:58] GA: but its more than being friends

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[08:59] AA: "Papping?"

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[08:59] GA: its like, super best friends, up to a new level

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[08:59] AA: "Piles?"

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[08:59] GA: yeah like a pile of snow or a pile of suits or something

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[08:59] GA: and papping is sorta when you rub your hand on them to calm them

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[08:59] AA: Why....why would you sit in a pile of things?

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[08:59] GA: idk so youre both comfy and together

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[09:00] AA: I mean admittedly I fell asleep in a pile of wood shavings once, but that was an accident from not sleeping enough while I was carving a statue.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[09:00] AA: I had a sore neck for a week after that.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[09:00] GA: okay its a bit of a different pile

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[09:00] GA: not usually made from something like wood shavings

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[09:01] GA: but its not the pile thats important, its the intimacy and connection

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[09:01] GA: it's called 'romance' because what you and your moirail share is a special bond of feelings and helping each other

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[09:02] AA: But I kind of feel that way about all my friends!

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[09:02] GA: see this is where it gets hard to explain

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[09:02] AA: I guess that's why they kept saying I was a "paleslut" or "incessantly gray" or something.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[09:02] GA: who said that?

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[09:02] GA: also, gray is ashen, not pale

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[09:02] AA: Okay, pale. Sorry. I get confused by this color terminology.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[09:03] GA: eh, ive had it explained to me a lot more times than i can count, youll get it

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[09:03] AA: Balish said I was incessantly pale. Null sort of agreed.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[09:03] GA: well, you kinda are

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[09:03] GA: but thats how humans tend to naturally be

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[09:04] AA: So but....trolls would get their feelings hurt if their "moirails" were listening to other people's problems and trying to help them feel better about them and stuff?

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[09:05] GA: yeah

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[09:05] AA: I mean man. What must they think of therapists?

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[09:05] GA: i dont think they have therapists

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[09:05] GA: like, im giving you advice and helping you, but this is just being friendly

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[09:06] GA: if you thought you were incapable and i was telling you you were and you would be great then it would be pale infidelity

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[09:06] GA: *were capable, i mean

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[09:06] GA: though, maybe thats not the best example

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[09:07] GA: trolls need moirails because they have murderous urges or whatever and if you fail to be a good moirail then people could die

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[09:07] AA: So what, if one of their friends says they're not feeling confident, they wouldn't tell them "You're the best!"?

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[09:07] AA: Unless they're "pale" for each other?

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[09:08] GA: well if your friend is confiding in you about their feelings its already infidelity

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[09:08] GA: thats why its so hard for humans, because we sort of naturally do it

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[09:08] AA: Man. Troll friendship is so weird.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[09:09] GA: it might just be better to leave the duty for another troll if you dont think you can do it

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[09:09] GA: because this is serious business romantic stuff

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[09:09] AA: Maybe they wouldn't have such a problem with murderous urges if they would just talk about their problems with each other more!

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[09:09] GA: thats just how their society is, and why they need moirails

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[09:11] AA: Man. I really want to help them. But it sounds like if I try to help more than one of them....or even try to help one of them AND the friends I already have, they'd feel hurt and betrayed. :(

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[09:11] GA: its a big responsibility for that reason, yeah

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[09:12] AA: Maybe they have some sort of "Friends with (Emotional) Benefits" thing. I mean it's not a very nice thing to call someone, but I guess I don't have a problem being a "paleslut," since it seems like for humans it'd basically be a compliment!

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[09:13] GA: ehhhh its p derogatory, like calling someone a normal slut, so i wouldnt take it as a compliment

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[09:14] AA: Nope. Pale pride!

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[09:14] GA: um, okay

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[09:15] GA: well, i suggest talking it out with balish

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[09:15] GA: he's probably much better at explaining and showing you how moiraillegiance works than me, im just an amateur

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[09:15] AA: Hmm. Maybe. I'm not sure I'm going to offer to be his moirail, because I can't promise not to help someone else if they need me. But I'm going to keep trying to get him to open up.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[09:16] GA: okay but if you mess this up there could be dire consequences

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[09:16] GA: im not sure exactly what, they were kinda vague on that, but i assume flipping out or something

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[09:17] GA: dont tell him you got advice from me, though, because he doesnt think im a good moirail

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[09:17] AA: What consequences? As long as I'm upfront about my intentions, I don't see how it's unfair to him.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[09:17] AA: He can always keep turning me down when I offer, after all.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[09:17] GA: yeah

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[09:17] GA: also, make sure beau is okay with you pursuing a pale relationship

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[09:17] AA: Oh, I already did.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[09:18] GA: oh, good

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[09:18] GA: okay, i think you understand now

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[09:19] GA: good luck with your endeavors

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[09:19] AA: Yeah, I think so. Or at least I understand that I have to talk to Balish about it.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[09:19] AA: Thanks, Doir

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[09:19] GA: see ya later, alligator

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[09:19] AA: You're one in a million, crocodillian!

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[09:19] GA: hehehe

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">[09:19] -- galactoidArrival [GA] ceased pestering arcaneArtisan [AA] at 21:19 --