121813doirkate

 -- abyssalArrow [AA] began pestering galactoidArrival [GA] at 18:50 --

 [06:50] AA: Doir, how are you?

 [06:50] GA: good, you?

 [06:50] GA: oh, whoops, forgot that it wasnt good

 [06:50] GA: scratch that, not good

 [06:51] AA: Yes, that is more expected.

 [06:51] AA: I was a bit shocked for a moment.

 [06:51] GA: sorry

 [06:52] AA: First, I think it's fair to say that I don't want you or anyone else to be using items that affect the way you think and act drastically any more.

 [06:52] GA: fair enough

 [06:52] GA: but that wasnt because of the pen

 [06:52] GA: it was a stupid decision

 [06:53] GA: but i cant just blame it on magical crap or whatever

 [06:53] AA: True, the other half was your own decision.

 [06:53] GA: id say it was more than half :/

 [06:54] GA: but ive learned two things; one, the herald is really important

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [06:54] GA: two;

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [06:54] GA: jack is going to die

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [06:54] AA: ...This I did not.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [06:55] AA: Do tell.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [06:55] GA: uh

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [06:55] GA: well, the herald will be important in killing jack

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [06:55] GA: which brings me to number two which was kill jack

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [06:56] AA: Do you know how these things will transpire?

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [06:56] GA: nope

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [06:56] GA: still in the planning phase

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [06:57] AA: Alright.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [06:57] GA: part one: get items back

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [06:57] GA: part two: get back to you guys

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [06:57] GA: then the rest is whatever

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [06:57] AA: Well, if it's any consolation, Doir.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [06:57] AA: Our timeline is not doomed.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [06:58] AA: So, in the grand scheme of things, you were supposed to get killed.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [06:58] GA: not sure exactly what that means but it sure makes me feel a lot better

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [06:58] GA: im so bad, even *time* wants me to die

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [06:58] AA: I just can't blame you for something you were inevitably going to do.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [06:58] GA: and what if i hadnt done it?

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [06:59] AA: Well, I don't know.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [06:59] AA: Bad things, I'd assume.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:00] GA: everything seems to be bad around here >:I

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:00] AA: But then, there would be another timeline where the correct thing had actually occured.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:00] AA: And I think we are in that timeline, as we should be.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:00] GA: huh

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:01] AA: I don't know, I'm mostly picking this up from writings on Hepheastus's Chamber.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:01] GA: so if we make a wrong decision, the game can just go 'lol nope' and make a timeline where the thing actually happened...

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:01] AA: Theoretically, yes.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:02] AA: But... the distinction between "wrong decision" and "right decision" is extremely arbitrary, it seems.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:02] AA: We've made a lot of stupid decisions, but the timeline is still intact.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:02] GA: so breaking the game and ending it forever would be impossible to do in all timelines

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:02] GA: interesting

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:02] AA: Maybe, maybe not.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:02] GA: whatever, time is your thing, not mine

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:02] AA: That may be what we are supposed to do, or it will doom the timeline.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:02] GA: true

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:03] GA: though i doubt the game wants to break itself

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:03] AA: The point is we won't be able to know until we do it, or until I figure out what it all means.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:03] AA: I don't know if it's the game's decision.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:03] GA: aw jeez, i hope nobody silly is making these decisions

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:03] AA: Me too.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:04] GA: but its apparently someone who likes having people die

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:04] GA: so, yaaay

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:04] AA: Well, that sounds like Jack, but I doubt even he is that powerful.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:04] AA: He's probably just as much at the mercy of "Correctness" as we are

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:05] GA: its actually really calming to know that no matter how bad we screw up at least it's what's 'supposed to happen'

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:05] GA: in this timeline, anyway

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:05] GA: now everything is justifiable

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:06] AA: I wouldn't go out of your way to make stupid decisions with this information, however.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:06] GA: no, im being silly

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:06] AA: Just consider what comes naturally, then consider if what comes naturally is actually an intelligent decision.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:07] GA: well, anything that comes naturally is stupid

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:07] AA: Maybe for you.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:07] GA: yeah

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:07] AA: Haha.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:08] GA: oh, i got into a romantic quadrant by the way

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:08] GA: im moirails with ryspor now <>

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:08] AA: I heard.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:08] AA: I am happy for you.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:08] GA: thank you

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:09] AA: This basically makes you... "BFFNRFRNKSSB"'s?

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:10] GA: what

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:10] GA: best... friends... forever... n? r? f...?

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:10] AA: It's some inane acronym that Maenam used once.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:11] GA: maybe?

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:11] AA: Let's just pay attention to the first 3 letters for the purpose of this analogy.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:11] GA: well its more than friends!

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:11] AA: OH?

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:11] GA: eheheh

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:11] GA: its romance but almost like a super best friendship

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:12] AA: How is that romance?

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:12] AA: I had it described to me as just like best friends.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:12] GA: we're supposed to have feelings jams and talk about our problems and always be there for each other

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:13] AA: Oh.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:13] GA: its really weird and they had to explain it like 20 times before it really clicked

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:13] GA: but its also really rad

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:13] AA: So... you're basically like symbiotic councilers?

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:13] GA: yes

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:13] AA: Alright, that makes sense.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:13] GA: and, considering we both were violently murdered the other night, it wasn't very hard to set it up

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:14] AA: I still don't see how it qualifies as romance.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:14] AA: But I'm not one for word choices.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:14] GA: i dont think this is naturally possible for humans

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:15] AA: I wouldn't go that far.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:15] GA: but im like, not quite sane so it worked

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:15] AA: It seems to me like something humans could be quite good at.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:15] AA: It's kismesisitude that I don't really follow.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:16] GA: yeah that ones weird but...

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:16] GA: i can sort of see it?

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:16] GA: its like a rivalry of sorts, like how small children are rivals and then mature and become lovers

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:17] AA: I think I might get nervous if Kikate developed something like that.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:17] GA: but without the lovers bit, theyre just always rivals

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:17] AA: Wierd.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:17] GA: it doesnt seem like something that would be wanted

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:18] GA: but its their culture so w/e they do they can do

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:18] AA: That's true.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:18] AA: It's just a lot at once.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:18] GA: there is quite a lot at once happening right now

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:19] GA: we shouldnt slow ourselves down with the impossibly complicated intricacies of alien romance

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:19] AA: You're right, but there isn't a whole lot else we can do.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:20] AA: We're largely grounded waiting for Sami's leg to heal back up.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:20] GA: true

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:20] AA: And Hepheastus doesn't seem very interested in talking to me.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:20] GA: that's a shame

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:20] AA: And on top of all that the Herald is as silent as ever.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:20] GA: yeah we really need to speak to him

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:21] GA: ill talk with scarlet at some point and see if i can find a way to help

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:21] AA: I... wouldn't.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:21] GA: no, she's cool now

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:22] AA: If Scarlet gets riled up about the Herald, Jack might react to it.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:22] GA: see, this is the point where i should just stop making decisions

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:22] AA: Just leave it to me, Doir.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:22] GA: im going to have to start submitting forms before choosing anything because that was the dumbest idea ever and i nearly would have done it

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:23] AA: That might be a good idea.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:23] AA: I'll handle the Herald, you just focus on getting your items back.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:23] AA: I'll talk to you later, Doir. Good luck.

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:23] GA: alright

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> [07:23] GA: bye

<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"> -- abyssalArrow [AA] ceased pestering galactoidArrival [GA] at 19:23 --